This Is How I Ended Up on

Oprah's Podcast


I wish I could tell you there was a master plan.

There was not.

I started posting because I needed somewhere to put what I was feeling. I was separated, still living in the house with my soon to be ex, and trying to make sense of the end of a 16 year relationship.

I wasn’t trying to build a platform or become an expert on relational patterns, that’s for damn sure.

I’ve always believed words have power. Sometimes saying something out loud is the first step toward releasing it. So I turned on my camera and started talking.

At the time, I had about 200 followers of mostly just friends and coworkers, so I had no expectations. One of my first relationship videos got four or five thousand views, and as you can imagine, that felt huge to me, and it made me perk up a bit. My third video got hundreds of thousands of views, and within just a few months, Kesha Speaks had grown to tens of thousands of followers.

Women kept saying the same thing in my comments and inbox:

You gave me the words.

And it was at that point that I realized… this was much bigger than me.

I became obsessed with understanding the patterns underneath what so many of us had lived. The more I learned about relational dynamics, patriarchy, emotional labor, and religious conditioning, the more I saw how connected everything was. It felt like I had found one loose thread and suddenly the whole thing started unraveling.

So I kept talking. And women kept finding themselves in the conversation.

About eight months into things, Oprah’s team put out a call for women who were quietly quitting their marriages. Someone told them they needed to look at Kesha Speaks.

The producer did. And that’s how I ended up sitting down with Oprah. Which is still a ridiculous sentence to type.

I’m Kesha Phillips, creator of Kesha Speaks. If you heard me on the podcast and came looking for more… hey. You found the right place.

So... What Did We Talk About?


We talked about what quiet quitting can look like inside a marriage when the traditional version of the relationship is no longer working.

For one woman, that might mean emotionally detaching while still living in the same house. For another, it might mean creating a different kind of marriage. For someone else, it might mean slowly transitioning out instead of leaving all at once.

The episode featured three women, including me, sharing different versions of that experience. I talked about what it was like to know my marriage was over while I was still living inside it.

Watch the full episode below. And yes, I still cannot believe I’m sitting there talking to this woman either.

Looking for Kesha as a guest or speaker?

Explore speaking topics, audience information, approved bios, press assets, and booking details.

Now That You're Here...


Kesha Speaks isn’t a place where I tell women to leave their husbands, save their marriages, heal by Tuesday, or buy a beige journal and manifest harder.

I talk about the things women are already living.

The emotional labor nobody bothered to name. The roles we inherited and then started calling our personalities. The one good day that has you wondering if maybe the last ten years were just a misunderstanding. The moment you realize being needed isn’t the same thing as being known.

My goal has become putting language to the things women are already living but haven’t always known how to explain. I want my work to help women recognize what they’re experiencing and trust themselves more deeply.

The SpeakEasy Newsletter


For the thoughts that need more than a social media caption

The newsletter is where I slow down and unpack the stuff social media makes me rush through.

Relationships, identity, self trust, hope, grief, conditioning, and the weird middle part where you know something has changed but have no clue what comes next.

kesha-phillips-kesha-speaks-oprah-newsletter

The Detachment Workbook


For when you know the relationship can’t continue as it is, but your life hasn’t caught up yet.

The Detachment Workbook is for women trying to mentally and emotionally separate while they’re still sharing a home, history, responsibilities, children, money, or just a whole lot of hope.

It won’t tell you whether to stay or leave. It gives you somewhere to put the thoughts you keep carrying around in your head.

The SpeakEasy Circle


For women who are tired of thinking through all of this alone

The SpeakEasy Circle is a private online community where women can talk honestly about relationships, separation, identity, and the messy middle without having to explain every detail from scratch. Members can join live conversations, share what they’re working through, hear from women in similar seasons, and get the kind of language and perspective that helps everything feel a little less confusing.

However You Got Here, I'm Glad You Found Me

Maybe you heard something on the podcast that sounded a little too familiar. Maybe you’ve been trying to explain what’s happening in your own life and keep running out of words. Maybe you’re not ready to do anything at all. You just know you can’t keep pretending you don’t see what you see.

You don’t need every answer today. But you do need to stop talking yourself out of the ones you already have.